FT130287. Finally moving in the right direction.

[Mark Monroe]

Chris,

When I upgraded to the Big-Y700 after it first came out, I had to submit a new sample because there wasn't enough sample left over after the Y500 submitted less than a year before. I know this is discouraging but I believe Family Tree was a little optimistic with their sample lifespan prediction. Another reason I am saving up to upgrade my sample at YSEQ. Hope the sample is viable for you.

-Mark

[ChrisMcLain132906]

They are definitely Mac Giolla Eain, ie Clan MacLean from the Hebrides. I think Woulfe would be mistaken, I found this family got into the mercenary trade around 1350 when their chieftain Lachlan married the daughter of the Lord of the Isles, and they appear in the annals several times as "sons of Gilla Eain", probably first arriving in Connacht but became very numerous in Ulster as well. Past the period of the galloglach, the MacLeans were also a part of the redshank population. The MacAilin/MacCailin were predominantly redshanks c1550-1650 and came in large numbers to the Laggan when there was an O'Domhnaill-Caimbeul power marriage. They are probably more correctly Mac Coilin from Coilin Mor, one of the earlier Campbell chieftains. I was looking at this possibility for my own branch due to the amount of Kellan/Killan/Killen, however i didn't find many oddities concerning the Carrigallen-Killeshandra population, who were pretty solid Maclean-only variants (even the 1659 "census" had "Mc GILEOINE, 14 families in ye baronies of Leitrim & Carigallen). It also seems (although I dont have enough data to really come to a conclusion) that the redshanks didnt quite *absorb* the Irish population through the many means that the gallowglass units did and were far more transient, returning to Scotland in the off-season, so there's probably a far lower SCE rate I would think. Through the Gallowglass project, Ive got about an 85% rate of Irish Y-DNA/Mercenary surname/papertrail in vicinity of mercenary farming cluster. Barely any Hebridean or Norse Y-DNA, I was honestly expecting about half & half.

Interesting sidenote about some of the Maclean plantation folk. When I was turning up everything Maclean-related years ago and including SW Scotland, I found a large family of McClean/McCleen in Dumfries early 17th c., who came into the Ards with Hamilton/Montgomery very early in the plantation years. However what I eventually found was that this surname was locational from a family of priests from Mauchline, a town in Ayrshire, upriver from Dumfries. It seems that "Mah-Cleen"/Maw-Cleen" anglicizing took the appearance a patronymic when it really wasnt one at all.

[ChrisMcLain132906]

Chris,

When I upgraded to the Big-Y700 after it first came out, I had to submit a new sample because there wasn't enough sample left over after the Y500 submitted less than a year before. I know this is discouraging but I believe Family Tree was a little optimistic with their sample lifespan prediction. Another reason I am saving up to upgrade my sample at YSEQ. Hope the sample is viable for you.

-Mark

Thanks Mark, I think this guy's only test so far was Y37 14 years ago, but I told his nephew to start reaching out for another swab candidate. By the way I got your PM, I hope your match emails you but it definitely sounds to me like a dead email. I've probably invited 50+ kits of interest to my A5902 project and the invites have all gone to dead emails. I'm starting to get responses from Keelans I sent messages to on ancestry.com (searched for Keelans in certain parishes in Family Tree section, and accounts that popped up owned by Keelan surnames, I shot a message to, knowing theyd have first person connection to a swath of Keelan men). At this point I'm really just trying to get a higher volume of participants into A5902 BigY700, knowing the larger amount of kits will start *hopefully* connecting branches and turning insignificant SNPs into significant ones.

I also hijacked a dormant, admin-less Kelahan surname project and revamped it and got another 7 kits into it. Adding all these surname variants into it's search tool will make it pop up into on people's accounts who aren't STR matches (since STRs are really a mirage anyway, you may have surname matches out there that arent in any groups and have such wacky damn markers, you havent come across them). The way FTDNA operates is really just a hinderance more than anything

[Webmaster]

Chris,

For the love of all that is holy, PLEASE don't recruit to BigY 700 testing, when YSEQ 30X WGS testing is US$399 and is so much more complete. 30X WGS tests on average seem to cover 5 million more base pairs than BigY 700 tests: 23 million compared to 18 million. Yes, there is the additional US$45 cost for the YFull analysis, but it is worth it since you get your BAM file, which saves US$99 at FTD. Also, the BAM file transfer from YSEQ to YFull is pretty automatic. So is the transfer from YSEQ to the YDNA Warehouse. So, PLEASE, good sir.

Nebula Genomics is another good option, although I hear they have been badly backlogged for months.

And 14 years out, I don't think you even stand a ghost of chance.

[ChrisMcLain132906]

Thanks for reminding me David, I'll go that route with any new participants. I've been meaning to order a test for myself from YSEQ, and will send one to Keleghan if I dont get any Keelaghan/Keelan particpants to send one to.

[Webmaster]

Chris,

BTW, is there any way I can persuade you into using the Old Irish form of Mac Céillecháin, since that is what I have been trying to do in the DCG with all the surnames?

[ChrisMcLain132906]

Absolutely! By the way, what sources do you use finding the older spellings of the language? I'm only familiar with teanglann.ie which I started using while doing Rosetta Stone Gaeilge lessons because google translate is quite atrocious

[Webmaster]

Chris,

I use eDIL. It has the root words that got compounded to form some names, but it is not a source of names like Irish Names or Woulfe or MacLysaght. You have to parse the compounded name converted back to its likely nominative case form from the genitive case form used in surnames to get the root words. It helps I have learned that "H" was added after a lot of the consonants in Middle Irish, and "E" often became "EA".

Reference this post for your surname root. The áin ending is just the genitive case form of the nominative case án diminutive ending. I hope that helps.

[ChrisMcLain132906]

Excellent, it definitely makes sense, especially looking at this name in the annals.

933. Céilecán son of Gairbíth, chief of Int Airthir, died.
986. A great disturbance in Ard Macha on the Sunday 25 July before Lammas between the Uí Echach and the Uí Nialláin, and in it the son of Trénar son of Celecán and others fell.
1002. Tréinfher son of Céilecán, prior of Ard Macha, was killed by Mac Léiginn son of Cairell, king of Fernmag.
1021. Aed ua Néill's son brought a raiding party over the Uí Dorthain who were in Mag Itechta, and they slew in Lethderg in the pursuit. And the best part of the Airgialla caught up with him from behind and came in front of him, or the Uí Méith and the Mugdorna and the Saithne and the men of Fernmag and the Uí Dorthain with their kings overtook him. Ua Ceilecháin and ua Lorcáin with the Uí Bresail and the Uí Nialláin, moreover, were waiting for him in Ard Macha and they all surrounded him; and Aed's son took his spoils past them all, though he had only twelve score warriors. And a good number on both sides fell in the middle of Ard Macha.
1037. Árchú ua Ceilecáin, i.e. king of Uí Bresail, and Ruaidrí ua Lorcáin, king of Uí Nialláin, were killed in Craeb Chaille by Muiredach ua Ruadacáin and by the Uí Echach.
1038. Colman Cam ua Conghaile ri H.m-Bresail, slain by Matadan ua Ceilecan
1044. Niall ua Céilecáin, king of Uí Bresail, and his kinsman Tréinfher, were treacherously blinded by the sons of Matudán.
1047. Muirchertach, son of Madadhan, king of Uí-Bresail, was killed in Ard-Macha, by Madadhan Ua Celechain secundus abbatis of Armagh.
1052. Gilla Pátraic son of Domnall, prior of Ard Macha, was treacherously killed by the son of Árchú ua Céilecáin.
1054. The son of Archu Ua Celechain, king of Uí-Bresail, were slain by the men of Fernmhag.
1063. Motodán ua Celecáin, prior of Ard Macha, died.
1077. Ua Célecán, heir designate of Airthir, was killed.
1089. Gilla Pátraic ua Célecán, prior of Ard Macha, died on Christmas Eve.
1096. Cú Ulad ua Ceilecán, i.e. heir designate of Airgialla, was killed by the province of Ireland, i.e. by the Ulaid.

[ChrisMcLain132906]

An O'Ceileachain (IN16539) comes into the FGC59200 fold, will most likely create a new SNP with Callaghan or Keleghan.
This variant was most numerous around Creggan p., Co. Armagh (1659: O'Keallaghan, 6.) where Rathkeelan exists (Rath Caolain, but should be Rath Ceileachain) near Crossmaglen; Creggan parish was probably a tuath of the Ui Breasaill Airthir a millennium ago.

156031 McLain filled out to Y111 a week or so ago and is close to completion. Callahan was in batch 1334 and he is Batch 1336. Hopefully a new kit in each of these clades may shake this tree up and make a connection but I'm not holding my breath.



Also to add to the list of oddities and mutated names, FRAHER, which is almost non-existant around the Fore-Delvin-Athboy area of interest for post-1200ad FT130287, actually exists here in large numbers as FARKER/FORKER. It seems the name somehow took on the Scottish variant of Mac Fearchair, ie "FARQUAHAR/FARQUHAR" but is undoubtedly a native Irish-catholic population mostly in the parish of Athboy, in big enough numbers to be a farming cluster. There may have been an influence on the dialect here or an anglicization by way of attraction. Unlike MacFhearchair in Armagh where the aspiration creates M'Carragher. Appearing in Griffiths in Drewstown, Co. Meath & Bunboggan, Co. Meath, both of which townlands adjoin Kilkeelan (Coill Ceileachain?). This name is also noted to be in Armagh, and Woulfe writes:
Quite numerous: N Antrim etc. Scottish, branch of Clan MacIntosh. The Scots Gaelic, as the Irish, is Mac Fearchair, Celtic - "very dear one". The corresponding Irish name appears as Carraher & Farragher, q.v.

BY9397 looks to have occurred in the 11th century, and a townland of Kilkeelan indicates a possible pre-invasion population here. Could an entire portion of the Ui Breasaill migrated here early?

What piques my interest is that "Fearchair" is dear one (Woulfe) or man dear (MacLysaght) and one of the meanings of Ceilechain is companion dear in the terms of a husband (ceile). Could this be a case of synonymous surnames?