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Latest in the Ua Guaire/Ui Coileáin saga

Posted: Tue, 2025-Mar-25 4:13 pm
by ChrisMcLain132906
I've spent several months now finding a lot of consistencies and coincidences in a potential geographical location of the Ó Guaire & Ó Coileáin with corresponding evidence of an Ui Briuin presence in Leinster in an ecclesiastical capacity. I've also found that the Ui Failghe genealogies are largely fiction (as written by Noel O'Muraile who says Rus Failghe was a fictional person as well as Cathair Mor, and that Cathair Mor was possibly a deity). I set out perusing through the Southern Ui Niall SNPs only the find that the only defined group were the O'Molloy of Cenel Fiacach. Interestingly, among the BY198 Ui Maine a large cluster of Dunnes appear with a Connor from Laois. Are these the Dunnes of Ui Reagain? (Tenehinch b., Co. Laois). None of the Ui Failghe dynastic groups appear represented in the Blocktree as far as I can tell, certainly not under the southern Ui Niall.

In my quest for Ui Cuilinn... I found that the pre-famine population density of both surnames (Ó Guaire & Ó Coileáin) is numerous in one place, which is the ancient tuath of Fearann Ui Murchan, i.e. modern region of Clonbullogue Co. Offaly-Rathangan, Co. Kildare. Most of the locations I found were via baptismals and marriages. Many "Gorry" and "Cullen" families existed as tenant farmers in Clonbulloge-Rathangan but are absent in any sort of land records or leases, indicating their long presence here as impoverished under-tenants, which, although genealogically unfortunate in terms of records, also tells me their presence here is ancient as the unfree classes had little to no migratory ability. At least a half-dozen townlands in this area had both "Gorry" and "Cullen" tenants 1820-60 indicating a possible tie between the two beyond coincidence. "Mac Coileain" exists in this region in both church records, placenames and fiants which I've demonstrated in previous threads.
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It's been my opinion lately that "Ui Cuilinn" in AFM1032, of which Tadhg Ua Guaire was tigherna, was somewhere on the eastern fringes of Ui Failghe and that this population either became subodinate to, or were pushed into Ui Failghe. Also, it's been my opinion that Ballymote, which gives Guaire m. Dubhdacrich m. Brenainn may be either be referencing an earlier Guaire that did not spawn the surname, and there was a later Guaire on this line. And like most genealogies where prominent names repeat, this was a Guaire Ua Cuilen whose descendants became dominant in this kin group and appear in the AFM in the 10th/11th centuries.

A serious contender in my mind for a somewhat-specific location has been Feighcullen, Co. Kildare (Fiodh Cuilinn) which lies in the parish of the same name in the barony of Connell, which is on the border of the barony of Offaly East. That parish contains the townland of Clongorey (Cluain Guaire, or Cluain Ui Guaire). However Feighcullen has been determined to likely be "Wood of the Holly Trees" but I believe several factors have been overlooked in determining this placename, and it's much more likely that it was Cuilinn's Woods, Cuilinn being one of the many corruptions of the given name Cuilen/Cuilein, now in modern-Irish Coileáin. There are many Cullens in Feighcullen townland, and Gorrys in adjacent Drinnanstown, Drumsru, and Glenaree. Drumsru also has several "McColin", "McKelen", "McClon" tenants in baptismals. Also the closest "Fiodh" related placename is "Fiodh Gabhla" (or Gabhla's Woods), which was the ancient name of the oak forest around Clonbullogue, for which the Figile river takes it's name (a corruption of Fiodh Gabhla). As Fiodh Gabhla refers to a given name, it's likely that Fiodh Cuilinn does also.

The earliest records of the surname Ó Coileáin here is very early and occurs in the Justiciary Rolls in the reign of Edward I. Several locations are relatively unknown, however these are all listed as "Offaly" among a number of pleas recorded when the King's Justiciar was on-circuit at Kildare castle, Co. Kildare. The first entry is the only one that gives a specific location.

1297. Offaly.
When Adam, the serjeant of Conal, and Stephen Frere, serjeant there, came upon the tenament of John de la Hyde and Walter de Wellesely, and distrained for a debt of the King and of Will. de Vescy, and took 40 bests and brough them to the tenement of John de Punchardun; there came Geoffrey and Ricard, sons of John of Balydreinan, Walter le Carter, and Maur. le Scepherde, and deforced the serjeants and wounded Stephen. Nich. M'crinan, Tatheg Okellan (Tadgh Ó Coileáin), and his son, Walter Martin, and Roger Le Rede are common robbers and spies. Fled. Outlawed.

Punchardston is Punchersgrange in Feighcullen p., Balydreinan is Drennanstown in Cloncurry p.
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Listed later in 1297 at Kildare pleas, one "Gillecarrach m'Gillis M'Olan" (Giolla-carrach mac Geilis Mac Coileáin) "stole corn by night with a Maccotyn (Maccolyn?), a Martin, and a M'Dunne, and were all outlawed. In the same entry:
"Peter de Bermingham's serjeant and Nich. Molgeuery (Ó Maolguaire?) are receivers of Irish robbers." This may be a mistranscription of Mac Guaire. The Berminghams held Carbury barony, as well as "Tetmoy" which was anciently Tuath da Maigh in Offaly (now parts of Coolestown and Warrenstown baronies). However it would solidify the geography of a Fiant in 1600 where one "Donagh M'Gorro" (Donnchadha Mac Guaire?) was a tenant of Rich. Bermingham of Carrick, Co. Kildare very close to Edenderry, Co. Offaly; 28 April 1600
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Research was a little stale after determining this, but a year ago when I was reading an entry in the Kildare Arcaeological society journal about the Sea of Kildare (as Clongorey was eccleasiastical land belonging to the monastery), and there was a Cairbre Ua Guaire "head of the church of Leinster" (undoubtedly Kildare) who died in the 960s (AFM), I was fascinated by a story relayed by the author (MacDevitt) which was told in the Fragmentary Annals.

"The annalists write of a battle in 722 where Fearghal, Ui Niall King of Ireland, with Aedh Laighen, King of Ui Maine invaded Leinster due to the refusal of the Laigin to continue the payment of the Borumean tribute. The invaders were defeated by the army of Leinstermen under King Murchadha mac Bran. The kings of both Ui Niall and Ui Maine were slain. The body of the Ui Maini king was recovered by his sons and his followers, carrying it over the country to ‘Lilcach’ “where Modichu, son of Amairgin, and Gall Craibhthech (i.e. the pious or religious foreigner) were.” The fugitives were, no doubt, encouraged to seek shelter at Lullymore by their trust in the piety of the foreigner; but we may be sure the mention of Modichu by the annalist had it’s own significance. Modicho was a brother of St. Finnbar, and we know him from the life of the latter that their father, Amairgin,w as sprung from the Hy Bruinn, the royal race of Connaught. There was good reason, therefore, to hope that the body of the dead king would receive honourable burial, and his sons protection at Lullymore through the influence of Modichu. The fugitives were kindly received, and remained for some time in the place, disguised as clerics. To show their gratitude, the annalist tells us, they employed their time in digging and erected the entrenchment around the church. Aedh Allen, son of Ui the slaine Ui Maini king accompanied them, lived to take his father’s place on the throne of and avenge his death at the Battle of Ballyshannon, County Kildare in 737; it was thus Aedh Allan sang:
“We did not find on earth a smoother place than Almhain,
We did not reach, after this, a more sacred place than Lilcach.”

The Fragmentary Annals adds "so that the friendship of the Úí Néill and Connachta is in that church from that time forth"

Lullymore was just north of Feighcullen. This was extremely interesting to me. It turns out that Saint Modichu was Ui Briuin Seola, and this all took place in the 8th century in the timeframe that the Ui Briuin kindreds were migrating out of Maigh Seola. Were there more Ui Briuin ecclesiastics associated with Lullymore? was it a known safe haven for disaffected or marginalized communities? Had it been part of a larger settlement and may have at one time been autonomous and located between Ui Failghe and Ui Faelain? It's proximity to Fiodh Cuilinn is certainly interesting. Fiodh Cuilinn was also an ecclesiastic settlement where one Saint Beoain established himself in either the 8th or 9th centuries, however he was known to be one of the Ui Faelain.

I've had this story in the back of my mind for quite a while but could never find anything more to associate with it. Recently I came across a pdf book called 'Irish septs and families" by an Australian named Larkin. He has for the O'Guaire...
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Two of these three I came to conclude myself, and it appears this guy has done his homework but gives zero sources. Ui Garrchon? I'm not sure who they were or why he would come to this conclusion. I took to the Ui Garrchon genealogies in Rawlinson B502 and found no Guaire, no Cuilinn. I wondered what he was saw that lead him to this but couldn't figure it out. It seems they were a branch of the Dal Messin Corb and an earlier people in Leinster, and very obscure. May be saw something I didn't that made him make this estimation and I left it at that.

Fast forward to the past week or so, I was reading a book called "Kildare: History & Society" and began a chapter about Saints Patrick, Brigid, and the Kings of Kildare 650-850 by Catherine Swift.
Swift goes into detail about who the Ui Garrchon were and where they were. She associates two churches, Lullymore and Dunmurraghill with the Dal Messin Corb prior to the domination of the Ui Dunlainge when the Dal Messin Corb were pushed into neighboring areas. She lays out a 10-mile stretch of north Kildare between Lullymore and Dunmurraghill as "Cenel Ucha" or Uachtar Fhine (for which the barony Oughterany, Co Kildare takes its name), this was a kindred of Dal Messin Corb, with whom the Ui Garrchon were associated or a branch of, as well as another fascinating fact...

An Ui Garrchon named Domnaill m. Flaithniad died in 783 at Cloncurry, and held the title ri Ui Failghe, noting his western connections. This Cloncurry was adjacent to Lullymore (and also adjacent to Fiodh Cuilinn). Swift writes that he was an interloper in the Ui Failghe kings who interrupted a succession of two sets of brothers ruling Ui Failghe.
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Did Larkin assocaite the Ua Guaire/Ua Cuilen with the Ui Garrchon because of their presence in Lullymore-Cloncurry-Feighcullen? Were they written into some genealogy of theirs? I have yet to check Ballymote. The fact that things keep leading me back to this area I believe is beyond coincidence. I recently found that there was a Saint Cilléne of Lilcach (Lullymore) whose feast day was March 12th, and just this morning I think I looked him up in the Martyrology of Gorman and he is listed as "cordial Cillene of Lilcach".
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I saw "Chualen mac Guaire" and though wow these two could be one and the same and possibly Ui Briuin, but it turns out that the Martyrology of Tallaght has Chualen mac Guaire as "of the race of Niall".
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In one specific timeframe of 750-800 there is:
-The splintering of Ui Briuin out of Maigh Seola
-Ui Briuin ecclesastics sheltering Connachtmen in Lullymore
-Lullymore associated with Ui Garrchon
-An Ui Garrchon taking kingship of Ui Failghe

...possibly resulting in what looks like..
An Ui Briuin kindred in E. Offaly in the vicinity of Lullymore in the 10th century if not earlier.

Re: Latest in the Ua Guaire/Ui Coileáin saga

Posted: Fri, 2025-Mar-28 2:00 pm
by BuckeyeMike
Chris,

Your research is fantastic! I need to send you on a quest for Rowley/O'Rothlain! :roll:

Re: Latest in the Ua Guaire/Ui Coileáin saga

Posted: Sat, 2025-Mar-29 12:59 pm
by Webmaster
Chris,

Again, WOW!

Re: Latest in the Ua Guaire/Ui Coileáin saga

Posted: Mon, 2025-Mar-31 6:39 pm
by tamcevoy
There are Ui Failge families showing under Z255
Z255>L159>Z16429>BY519>ZZ7_1>Y12458>BY2573>FT42803>FT41118>FT41529

Re: Latest in the Ua Guaire/Ui Coileáin saga

Posted: Wed, 2025-Apr-02 11:30 pm
by ChrisMcLain132906
Thanks guys! Tim that's very interesting, it looks like a lot of the Ui Mail are in there too, I'll have to dig into it all.

Re: Latest in the Ua Guaire/Ui Coileáin saga

Posted: Sat, 2025-Apr-05 3:27 am
by Muireagain
The four Dunns from Laois, home the O Duinns of Ui Failge, who have taken a yDNA test are M222+. This group also includes Paul Conroy, also M222+, who claims to descend from the Dunns of Laois.

Two individuals, who have undergone further yDNA testing, are categorized as M222>Z2959>S568>S566+, along with other Dunns from other locations.

Other surnames under the M222>Z2959>S568 category include the Daltons, a noble family from Westmeath. Which I believe claimed to have originate from Ireland, yet returned with the Normans?

There is a Sword who is M222>Z2959>S568>S566+ and another Sword who is M222>Z2959>S568+. A Sword pedigree links them to Uí Eochaidh Fionn-Fhothart, allegedly from a brother of Conn of the Hundred Battles.

While under M222>Z2959>S568>FT45504+, we find the Nolans of Co. Carlow, who claim descent from Uí Eochaidh Fionn-Fhothart.

Note: The Morgan, whose father is form Co. Offaly, is not M222+, I wonder if he is Z255+.

Re: Latest in the Ua Guaire/Ui Coileáin saga

Posted: Sun, 2025-Apr-06 3:50 am
by Webmaster
This is where I would look for any parallel lines to R-DF104:
111. Mc. do sein Crimthand nianar [Crimthann Nia Nár = Crimthann noble warrior] & robi Clothra ingen Eochach feidlig a mathair .i. Luigdach & Crimthand. [This explains that Clothra was both his mother and grandmother. Ewwww. I think this man was the "Second Milesius" of Laud 610 and these two generations of incest were a backhanded way of grafting the foreign proto Dál Cuinn onto the Éremónian line.]
112. Mc. do Crimthaind Feradach find fechtnach [Feradach Find Fechtnach].
113. Da mc. la Feradach .i. Aengus [Óengus] & Fiachu find .f. [Fiachu Find Fechtnach]
114. Mc. la Fiacha .f. .i. Feradhach find .f. [Feradach Find Fechtnach] & robesiden Tuathal techtmar [Tuathal Techtmar].
115. Tri mc. la Tuathal techtmar .i. Fiacha mar [Fiachu Már] & Feidlimidh cris airg [Feidlimid Cris Argat] & a quo Dail Fiatach ele & Feidlimid rechtmar. [Feidlimid Rechtmar]
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                          Crimthann Nia Nár
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                       Feradach Find Fechtnach
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              Óengus                      Fiachu Find Fechtnach
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                           Tuathal Techtmar                Feradach Find Fechtnach(?)
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            |                     |                     |
   Feidlimid Rechtmar         Fiachu Már       Feidlimid Cris Argat(?)
Feradach Find Fechtnach son of Fiachu Find Fechtnach looks like a duplicate of his grandfather Feradach Find Fechtnach. Feidlimid Cris Argat also looks spurious as the purported progenitor of the Dál Fiatach. That leaves Óengus son of Feradach Find Fechtnach and Fiachu Már son of Tuathal Techtmar as possibilities.

Re: Latest in the Ua Guaire/Ui Coileáin saga

Posted: Mon, 2025-Jun-02 12:55 am
by ChrisMcLain132906
Some mistakenly over-looked fiants on my part seem to be confirming Ui Failghe here. I didn't realize "Guaire" had a rolled "r", and the mac-prefix was overwhelmingly dominant, creating "Guodeh" with the english pen. It seems the only record of Uí/Ua are in AFM, although the earliest fiant hints at it.
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28 Aug 1551 Molmore M'Iguowde, kern, in Offaly (Ballykean p? with Owen m'Hugh O'Dempsey's sept)
28 Oct 1562 Morrough macGarr (w Lysagh m'Murrough O'Connor who held Geashill)
24 Feb 1571 John Gwery, occupied one waste messuage on Winetavern St., Trim, Co. Meath
11 Jun 1575 James Maguodo, kern (w Cormac m'Brian O'Connor, de facto lord of Offaly, employs Redshanks via Burkes)
28 Aug 1575 Donagh m'Edm. M'Korroe, servant of Owen m'Hugh O'Dempsey (Ballykean area?)
5 Apr 1578 James M'Guoode, Cohegre M'Guoode, kerns (w m'Lysagh and M'Gilpatrick septs who held Geashill)
4 Dec 1600 Donagh M'Gorro, servant of Rich Bremingham of the Carrick, Co. Kildare
28 May 1601 Carbry, Donnell, Ferrall M'Ewery, husbandmen, of Castletown Co. Westmeath (likely Kilcleagh p.)
1 Jul 1601 Conoulough M'Guode, of Philipstoune (Daingean, Co. Offaly)

"M'Iguowde" seems to be Mac Uí Guaire, something that was done to differentiate one branch of a family from another. This individual is a kern with the O'Dempseys. O'Dempsey's bards also did this with their name (Mac Uí Crossain, who were originally O'Moore's bards). This possibly infers that the Uí Guaire name probably distributed as it did as hereditary ceithearnach, and possibly buonnachta (levied ceithearnach; a mercenary twist?)

I've taken to some message boards to recruit some Gorrys from Geashill/Ballykean which I hope eventually proves or disproves a relation to "Ui Cuilen". Obviously if they develop on my branch, my Ui Cuilen theory is incorrect. I've found O'Guaire fiants in the area of Mr. Fraher's MDKA, which may mean we are all Uí Guaire. It turns out the name there in modern times is "Quarry" (Mac Guaire), another hint at the mac-prefix being dominant in the late medieval period.
Mac Lysaght wrote "Gorey" was "Wexford-Waterford, Midlands. But originally Midlands" which I doubted he could make a connection being that it seemed to be a popular name at the time, but perhaps he was onto something, and Mr. Fraher's presence there may prove him right.

23 Dec 1566 Nicholas Gwere of Clonphilip, kern (Kilmacthomas Co. Waterford area?)
11 Feb 1574 Edmund Gwerre of Waterford, Co. Waterford


Aside from the O'Guaire developments, I may have finally been able to place actual MacLeans in the area after tons and tons of reading about an obscure timeframe. Cormac mac Brien O'Connor Faly who was "chief of all rebels and malefactors in the midlands" in the 1570s seems to have acquired a force of 800 Scots (Campbells, MacLeans, MacNeills). These Scots were obtained by Clanricarde's sons in the Mac an Iarla rebellions c.1570 from Mac William Burke, and mentioned in the annals at the Battles of Cloonee in 1558 and Shrule in 1570. They were active in E. Galway/S. Roscommon wreaking havoc 1570-74 and burned Athlone in 1571.
Government correspondence mentioned fears of their "irrupction over the Shennan to assist O Connor". The Mac an Iarlas began submitting the government in 1572, and the mercenaries were loosed upon the country.
CSP 1573 :“Scots invading and overrunning Connaught… spoiling some part on the east side of the Shenon, as the like hath not been seen in any like time”... (the) Bishop of Clonfert cannot pass through to Athlone to attend assizes due to the number of Scots, requests a boat from Fitton...
Shortly after this, President Fitton at Athlone castle wrote to the Lord Deputy "Scots near Athlone under Cormac Oconor.", it's clear that these people did in fact cross the Shannon into Offaly. I found several accounts in the Cal State Papers where Elizabeth's spies wrote that Cormac had a band of Irish and Scots rebels that "hovered between Connacht and Leinster". In the 1575 Fiant he has a kern named James Maguodo (Seamus Mac Guaire) and also a Scot named Walter Albanagh (Albanach; "Scot"). There are very few redshanks in the fiants, it's my guess that they were mostly executed when captured due to the clear state of paranoia about them in Elizabeth's administration.

Hopefully this pans out in one direction or another.

Re: Latest in the Ua Guaire/Ui Coileáin saga

Posted: Mon, 2025-Jun-02 3:38 am
by Webmaster
Chris,

As always, completely amazed by your research. And it appears Anglicization struck again. Sigh...

BTW, Have you uncovered much about the emigration from Co. Galway to Bréifne? Just curious if there is any indication they came from Mag Seóla.

Re: Latest in the Ua Guaire/Ui Coileáin saga

Posted: Mon, 2025-Jun-02 3:14 pm
by ChrisMcLain132906
Thanks David! So far it's a mystery as it seems the Ui Guaire were entirely in Leinster, unless of course other branches daughered out/died out. In AFM 1058 an anchorite of the name in Devenish, Co. Fermanagh (very close to Breifne) died, which may be an indication they could have initially made the Magh Seola>Breifne migration, however it's very circumstantial with the way ecclesiastic people moved. I believe they were probably there and possibly never even Maigh Seola, and I'll lay that out.
Maol Finnéin Ua Guaire, anchorite of Daimhinis, died. AFM1058
The name Mac Gofraidh which appears to be a branch of the Muintir Maelmordha really clouds the research in Breifne and took me in a wrong direction for years when I was thinking my kin group came Cavan>W'Meath>Offaly in a much more recent time. Being able to differentiate if there were O'Guaire in Breifne when there are so many Mac Gofraidh would be close to impossible to verify. The name is scattered in west Connacht but in that area it is also from Mac gCorra, creating another anglicization/differentiation problem.

There's about a 150-200 year mystery timeframe between Magh Seola and the Breifne (or elsewhere) settlement. In Paul McCotter's work he can only place some Cenel Brenaind kindreds in Breifne about the early to mid 9th century and that's just based on a place name, Dunmakeever Co. Cavan (Dun Mhic Iomhair; The Fort of Iomhair's son) which is related to a Ruairc in the Eochaidh>Samhradhain line.

However, it's a theory of mine that Dubh-da-crich, who probably lived around the turn of the 7th c if not earlier, was named so because he may have had an interest in, or controlled (possibly by way of a maternal connection) either a district closer to Leinster or somewhere near or within Breifne itself (much more likely). And that the movement out of Maigh Seola was not only much earlier than thought, but it was not an accident that the Ui Briuin Breifne kindreds just ended up where they did. The only Cenel Brenaind individual supposedly linked to Maigh Seola is Maonach m. Baithin m. Brenaind rí Uí Briuin Breifne c. 649-653 at the battle of Airthir Seola. But just because the battle was fought near Maigh Seola, does that really mean the Ui Briuin Breifne were occupying it? It could be the case that they had already migrated and were just in a fray closer to their old homesteads. Could the great contention among the Ui Bruin septs already have occurred and the Ui Briuin Breifne were no longer in Maigh Seola? It's possible.
Another reason I think this, is that there are timelines that just dont add up. In "Bethada Náem nÉrenn" which states that Saint Maedoc of Ferns.. "was given to be fostered and nurtured by Úa Dubthaig, that is Dubthach son of Dub-da-Crich, &c. And this Dubthach was one of six sons of Dub-da-Crich...

Six sons of Dub-da-Crich renowned,
Dubthach, Dogran of the bright countenance,
Maelbennachtadh, beauteous Murchad,
Guaire, and Fannan of the curly hair.
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Saint Maedoc of Ferns is said to be born c.558 at "Inisbrefny" which is an island in a lake at Templeport, Tullyhaw, Co. Cavan. and that he was fostered with the Ui Dubhthaigh in Magh Slecht, i.e. Tullyhaw. He died in 632 so this date is probably close to correct. He was also a first cousin of Saint Dallan, who in the book of Ballymote, "cursed" Mael-Duin, son of Maenach m. Baithin "because he was the worst of them". Dallan is Saint Dallán Forgaill, who was born abt 560 in Magh Slecht near what is now Ballyconnell, Co. Cavan. Kildallan (Cill Dallan) in Templeport parish, Tullyhaw was named for him. He was also Chief Ollamh of Eireann. Religious relics and placenames associate both of these saints with Tullyhaw. St. Maedoc, while studying at the Abbey of Clonard in Meath (on the Ui Failghe border) was friends with a Molaoise who started the monastery at Devenish island (where the anchorite Maelfinnan Ua Guaire d. 1058). Unless this is all completely fabricated, there seems to be multiple coincidences inferring that Dubh da Crich himself if not his sons, may have lived in Breifne. If we take the *accepted* timeline of a late 8th century migration at the earliest, we are 150+ years later than when both Dubh-da-Crich's sons could have interacted with Maedoc, and Maenach's sons were baptised (and one cursed) by Dallan.

In 792 a Cormacc m. Duibh Da Crich ri Breifni fell at the battle of Ard macc Rimi in Ui Ailella (AFM). Unless there are several Dubh-da-crichs, it's more likely he was Ui Dubh-da-crich and that this is another king of the Cenel Brenaind kindred, but an unknown branch. I think the Cenel Brenaind could have firmly controlled an area and maybe the Ui Ruairc arrived afterwards and muscled them out of succession.

The next interesting annals entry...

AU845.2 Dún Masc was plundered by the heathens, and there were killed there Aed son of Dub da Crích, abbot of Tír dá Glas, and Cluain Eidnig, Ceithernach son of Cú Dínaisc, prior of Cell Dara, and many others.

This Aed "m. Dub da Crich" was the abbot of what is now Terryglass, Co. Tipperary( adjacent to Portumna Co Galway) , and Clonenagh Co. Laois. He was present at Dun Masc (i.e. The Rock of Dunamase) in Laois with a prior of Kildare. I can't help but think there is some ecclesiastic connection, as the earliest record of the Ua Guaire is AFM962 "Cairbre Ua Guaire, head of the hospitality of Leinster", i.e. a likely abbot of Kildare. But who knows if this is "our" Dubh-da-crich. Couple that with the fact what I've found months ago about "Lullymore" (Lilcach) and an Ui Briuin monk within Ui Failghe sheltering Connachtmen in the 8th century, and I think there's multiple avenues of potential Connacht>Leinster movement here in this mystery timeframe of the Ui Briuin Breifne coming out of Maigh Seola.

Adding in the oldest locational reference to Ua/Mhic Guaire is Tullygorey, Co. Kildare and there seems to be some close geographic coincidences that may illustrate a path from Connacht into Leinster. Tullygorey was in Archbishop Alen's register, first recorded in 1297 as Cluain Ard Mhic Guaire, and there was ruins of a medieval church there. It was also at one point within the boundaries of Ui Failghe, particularly Clann Mhaoilura (O Diomasach) before the Norman invasion.

This mystery timeframe of migration ends just about the time of our TMRCA, c.872-962
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I think it's very possible that the Cenel Brenaind may have never had an association with Maigh Seola, and could have originated in Breifne or some unknown place. If the Ua Guaire were in fact ecclesiastics in the centuries afterwards, the events of the Viking age may have pulled them wholly into Leinster. I think the endless pillaging of religious houses and the kidnapping/slaughtering of monastic communities in the 9th/10th centuries may have created such extreme vacancies in ecclesiastic positions that the church may have filled them with individuals who were far outside the normal kindreds of erenaghs/coarbs and lines of succession, but also outside of Leinster.

So far, everything not only points to a 10th century (or earlier) Ui Guaire presence in N. Leinster, but one area where the most dense modern population, fiants, placenames, and annals all have in common is Clanmaliere (Clann Mhaoilura) in Ui Failghe, who just happen to have overhwelmingly preferred the given name Cuilen (Ui Culinn in AFM1032?)
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